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Hazel is back home

Hazel is home from the vet. She has had her bottom shaved, and has a neat line of stitches. You can hardly see them, but I am sure they hurt. She took a pain pill hidden in a piece of cheese last night.

She will not fall for that a second time.

So I am doing the thing where you pry her mouth open and jam it down her throat, while reciting promises of undying love. I have done it to many animals over the years. Dogs, cats, goats, babies.... I can say with some confidence, as far as difficulty,  that dogs fall into the mid-range. Cats are of course the worst. (Nobody had any doubts of that, right?) Although, our goat Daphne once bit right through my mom's fingernail. (Mom was trying to retrieve a camera lens cap, but the action is the same.) That was the day I first saw arterial  spray. Mom considered it a teachable moment. She was good that way.

But I digress. What I wanted to say is that the pill thing is an argument for prying open the mouths of all pets now and then, and feeling around in there. Baby humans too, for that matter, but we do that anyhow usually.

Dogs and cats should be willing to have mouths and feet handled, in case you ever really need to. If you cat is choking, and you might need to do CPR, it is not the time to get severely bitten reaching into her mouth....

Sorry did not mean to lecture-- I am sure most of you do this anyhow.

Anyway. Hazel is home. That is my point.

How are you?

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esmerelda_t
May. 2nd, 2013 07:49 pm (UTC)
I have vivid memories of my mum making our dog take her pills. She'd clamp the dog's jaws shut with her hands and wouldn't let go until Lady swallowed it.

She did something similar with me when I wouldn't take stuff too, I had eye drops once and it was like A Clockwork Orange! </p>

Hope Hazel is recovering well and won't need to take her pills for too long.

eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2013 01:05 am (UTC)
I had a dog once that would cheek pills for up to something like 10 minutes, until i was sure that they must have gone down, and i had turned away. Then she would spit them out behind the furniture.

Giving a small child eye-drops is brutal. There is almost no way to make it kind or quiet.
thistle_chaser
May. 2nd, 2013 08:00 pm (UTC)
Yay for Hazel being back! Have I mentioned Greenie pill pockets to you yet? (Sorry if I have, a number of people on my friends list currently have under-the-weather pets.) They're a treat animals love, with a pocket to stick the pill in, then you pinch it closed around it. Seems to work better than human foods.

Dogs and cats should be willing to have mouths and feet handled, in case you ever really need to. If you cat is choking, and you might need to do CPR, it is not the time to get severely bitten reaching into her mouth....

That part worries me so much. I've had my cat for going on two years now, but she was feral before that, so she still doesn't fully trust me. When things go bad*, she won't even let me near her -- not within grabbing range. I really worry about emergencies, like my apartment being on fire or something.

* "Bad" can mean anything from a stranger knocking at the door to a plastic fork unexpectedly falling off the counter. No exaggeration. After a plastic fork fell off multiple feet from where she was eating dinner, she wouldn't eat again until I moved her feeding spot further away.
eglantine_br
May. 2nd, 2013 08:45 pm (UTC)
The Greenie pockets sound great. But Hazel would be dubious of them I fear. She is scared of most dog treats.

Also, you totally make the point as to why cats are the worst. I am not sure any feral cat will ever relax enough to let you near her mouth. And they are more likely than other critters to hide when they are sick. Sounds like you are doing as well as you can for her.

Edited at 2013-05-02 08:47 pm (UTC)
thistle_chaser
May. 3rd, 2013 03:26 am (UTC)
Oh oops. Yep, they wouldn't work at all then.

And thanks. She's improved a lot, but she still has a long way to go.
openidwouldwork
May. 2nd, 2013 08:11 pm (UTC)
So much amen to your post! BRAVO!
eglantine_br
May. 2nd, 2013 08:49 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I love my animals. They are great company for me.
nodbear
May. 2nd, 2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
So glad Hazel is home *hugs and favourite biscuits for her*

and you are so right about the pill taking.

I was hugely fortunate to have a cat who thought everything I held out on my hand to her was a treat. She was easy to give medicine to therefore but I felt a bit of a betrayer :0
eglantine_br
May. 2nd, 2013 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yes-- Lyra is a bit like that. She has a little-girl innocence still. She is sure that all food is delicious for cats.
provencepuss
May. 2nd, 2013 10:09 pm (UTC)
I have never had a cat that can be fooled more than once with a hidden pill! I've watched a cat daintily nibble round the pill (crushed or not) buried in: tuna, 'gourmet' cat sachets, cream, yogurt,chicken liver (raw and cooked) foie gras; fresh sardine, tinned sardines, chicken soup...you name it I've tried it. I tried twice to get a tranq into Polly before she flew out to France - she spat the first one out and the second may or may not have ended up behind my sister's sofa. Madame had to travel in the hold (British Airways won't allow pets int eh cabin) and I saw her riding on top of the baggage and burst into tears - she was awake. the Pilot came to reassure me that the hold was probably warmer than the plane and not to worry!
Mishka allowed me to get one pill donw his throat then took the line of 'won't be fooled again' and spat 'em out, held them under his tongue until I thought he's swallowed them....
As for Miss Minnie - like Mishka she appeared and adopted me - she was fooled once. Our vet gave him a slow release anti-biotic shot when he had an abcess
Since then I've had a nightmare rime trying to kid her again for a worming pill. and EUREKA...I asked the pharmacist if there wasn't a no-taste-no-odor treatment (we tried the paste in a tube - she spat it all over me!) and guess what - there is a six-month worm treatment like the stuff I use against ticks and fleas..drops that you put on the scruff of the neck where they can't lick them off.

I just looked up Greenies to see if i can get them in France and found this (sounds like some cats are sick after being given them)

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/greenies.html


Edited at 2013-05-02 10:13 pm (UTC)
piplover
May. 3rd, 2013 12:40 am (UTC)
My cat Rodney has an auto-immune disease, so I've been forcing pills on him since he was a kitten. I used to have a pill popper that I would literally shove down his throat and then pop the pill in. Neither one of us was happy with that, but he refused to take his meds any other way.

Then I found the Greenie pill pockets and he takes his pills without trouble. I give him the pockets sometimes without pills, so he thinks of them as treats and not just med time.
eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2013 01:08 am (UTC)
I had a metal one for the goats. Looked sort of like a giant syringe. But in the end it was easier to just use your hand-- being careful to avoid the back teeth. A goats back teeth can crush an oak branch as big around as your thumb...
phyncke
May. 3rd, 2013 03:19 am (UTC)
I practice the mouth thing with my cat. You are right about that. Pilling a cat is not easy. LOL.
charliecochrane
May. 3rd, 2013 09:55 am (UTC)
Yes, absolutely. It's called operant conditioning and lots of zoos use it for exactly that purpose.
eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2013 01:41 pm (UTC)
Makes sense.

You know, it is funny when I have written Archie as sick or injured I have had an animal in mind. I have given him the same stoic, got to hide, compensating until he can't. He lets Horatio close enough to help the first time, but it is not easy for him. After however long on Justinian he is almost feral.

Off topic here-- son just showed me a youtube vid of a man who had discovered he could trim his hedges with a chainsaw swung around his head on a rope!

His hedge looks awful.
charliecochrane
May. 3rd, 2013 02:10 pm (UTC)
His hedge looks awful.

I bet it does...
serge_lj
May. 5th, 2013 06:21 pm (UTC)
Cats and pills, not feasible without human bloodletting.
Dogs are easier, usually, unless you're crazy like my girl Freya - see icon.
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