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Politics in the morning--guns

If you would like a nice dose of heartbreak and rage this morning...

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/can-your-child-learn-to-defeat-a-school-shooter.html?mid=google&google_editors_picks=true

Since my kids left for school I have worried about a shooter. College looming up does not relieve my worries. I have also asked parents about house guns before little kid playdates. Questions were not always welcome. Probably you outside US have not had this level of worry.

I had a childhood friend die by playing with a loaded gun he found. I have had my son come home from a playdate to report a loaded gun in other kids room. And, as I have said before, I was shot myself.

I have watched otherwise acceptable candidates cave in over and over to the NRA... I am so angry, so tired, so afraid.

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ba1126
Oct. 9th, 2015 06:02 pm (UTC)
It gets more coverage now, but this has been a problem for some years. I remember my Dad reminding us, especially whenever we went to visit a new friend's house, to ALWAYS assume a gun was real and loaded, and to NEVER touch them. As a firefighter/first responder, he'd seen too many sad cases of "I didn't know it was real/loaded!" We were not even allowed to point our 'cap' guns at anyone!! (this was in the 50's, when LOTS of kids had cowboy heroes and cap guns. BB guns were popular Xmas gifts,too!!)
veronica_rich
Oct. 9th, 2015 06:31 pm (UTC)
Hell, there was another one this morning, right?

It's so crazy that so many of these same people who froth about not wanting their right to guns taken away get equally frothy when you tell them to keep their hands out of other people's bodies. So it's OK to shoot a kid after it's born, just not to abort it before it actually becomes a kid.

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(On a happier topic, could I PM you about a couple of travel questions? A friend and I are going to NYC/Brooklyn in April and have never been there.)
eglantine_br
Oct. 10th, 2015 12:35 pm (UTC)
Of course you can PM me. I will answer any questions I can
rum_inspector
Oct. 9th, 2015 06:43 pm (UTC)
always happy to see informed parents! Just keep asking, and be firm, and arrange playdates in your house if you can't trust others... it won't change otherwise!!!

You know, Finland is actually somewhat pro-gun, pro-hunting society... There is probably more guns per person here than many other european countries, but shootings are rare. We got very strict policies. Actually, not even all police officers can carry guns, unless necessary! And still, everyone obeys cops... Even though everyone knows, tazer might be the only weapon they carry.

If it's hard to get a hold of a gun, it's less likely that shooting happens! Same with accidents, it is a fact that a gun at home does NOT bring safety in your house, on the contrary... you can't have accident with a gun if you don't have one... and that often, a gun owner has been shot with their own gun because they lost control over it...

My step dad was a shooting champion, and I myself have shot rounds at the shooting range at the age of 10, so it's not like I'm a stupid hippie communist that tries to prevent free americans the freedom of owning a gun :P
When I was a kid, there were shotguns on a shelf in our house (never loaded, mind you) until a regulation came that guns as well as ammo has to be stored behind locks. SO, did our dad or the tens of thousands of hunters in Finland start a rage fit over locked cabinets? NO! Everyone just bought a locked cabinet, it wasn't a big deal at all! It was a very reasonable thing to do, and everyone was like, why didn't we think of this before... it's much safer this way.
mylodon
Oct. 10th, 2015 09:22 am (UTC)
Similar to UK in many ways. Sensible approach!
rum_inspector
Oct. 28th, 2015 06:50 pm (UTC)
I just read a meme on twitter that said "If you are reciting an amendment from 1789, by all means carry guns from 1789!"
eglantine_br
Oct. 28th, 2015 11:37 pm (UTC)
I entirely agree.
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