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I am reading the '1811 dictionary of the vulgar tongue' it includes dirty and slang talk from England, from sailors criminals and university students.

It claims to give the secrets of the latest terrible words, so that young men can use them with confidence around parents and even girls(!) and remain undetected!

A lot of times these compilations are a disappoint, but this one is jaw droppingly inclusive, and full of all kinds of things that are absolutely relevant to me.

For example:

(When Bush says Wellard does not know the bob-stay from the spanker-boom he is also saying W does not know his ass from his frenulum.)

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wellinghall
May. 2nd, 2014 07:30 pm (UTC)
!!
eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2014 01:19 am (UTC)
I know, right?
provencepuss
May. 2nd, 2014 09:01 pm (UTC)
or as I've always said ' doesn't know his arse from his elbow'
eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2014 01:19 am (UTC)
Way more polite.
ba1126
May. 2nd, 2014 09:18 pm (UTC)
I just looked it up and learned what a frenulum is!! One example is the muscular piece that holds your tongue to the floor of your mouth!
eglantine_br
May. 2nd, 2014 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yes indeed that is one example. Not sure that was the one Mr B was referencing though.
anteros_lmc
May. 2nd, 2014 10:33 pm (UTC)
My ex had a frenulum piercing. That's the frenulum Mr B was referring to ;)
anteros_lmc
May. 2nd, 2014 10:29 pm (UTC)
Grose Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue is splendid! What's really interesting though is what has been edited out between the 1785 edition and the 1811 edition. There's less fucking in the 1811 edition!
eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2014 01:19 am (UTC)
Oh where can I get the 1785 edition? That is the one I really need!

Look at Archie disapproving!! He is astonished that anyone would sink so low...
provencepuss
May. 3rd, 2014 06:16 am (UTC)
the 1811 edition was already moving towards the pseudo-moralist 19th century 'principles' which culminated (especially in the US) in the fake 'modesty' of covering even the legs of furniture because...well because they were 'legs' and no well brought up lady should see an uncovered leg! Plus the exploits of the infamous Dr Bowlder. Notwithstanding that, one of the oldest swear words in the English language was used freely still
eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2014 07:19 am (UTC)
Dr Bowlder has a lot to answer for, even now. He is totally responsible for kids who think Shakespeare is boring. Once you take all the puns out, and all the sex jokes out, he is boring! (And he makes a lot less sense.)

The Victorians in general have a lot to answer for. Poor things, they were so scared of the world. Still, they gave us Dr Dentons and Graham crackers. Neither of those had any effect on the behavior of little boys, but they make for cozy snacking now.
eglantine_br
May. 3rd, 2014 06:44 pm (UTC)
Oh, I got it. It has 'bantling' listed. That makes my heart warm, thinking of EP.
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